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Nation of Cheaters?
Interview with author
David Callahan
Media Interviews
with David Callahan:
Across the Board,
Jan./Feb. 2004
Corporate Crime Reporter, January 26, 2004
Forbes.com, January 26, 2004
The Connection (NPR), February 6, 2004
Failure Magazine, February 18, 2004
Brian Lehrer Show (WNYC), February 18, 2004
Marketplace Morning Report, March 11, 2004
Minneapolis Star Tribune, March 13, 2004
Tavis Smiley Show (NPR), March 26, 2004
Q. Why did you write a book on cheating?
A. When the
corporate scandals exploded in 2001, I was a finishing a
book on a group business leaders who graduated from the
Harvard Business School in 1949. These guys shook their
heads
in disgust at the likes of Enron and WorldCom, and said
their generation simply lived by a different set of values
than many of today’s leaders. Was that true, I wondered?
Around the same time, I noticed a raft of scandals outside
the business world: top historians under fire for
plagiarism, college sports teams under investigation, Ivy
Leaguers busted for cheating on the GRE, the IRS reporting
an epidemic of tax evasion. In writing this book, I set out
to connect the dots, to dig into changes in our values and
the economy, and see what was driving so much cheating.
Q. What do you mean by "cheating?"
A. I look at
otherwise law-abiding people who break the rules to get
ahead financially or in their careers. A lot of these same
people would never think of stealing a candy bar from a
store. My book doesn’t deal with infidelity in relationships
or corruption by public officials. Those topics have gotten
lots of attention elsewhere and, anyway, the evidence
suggests that it’s only cheating for private gain where
things have gotten worse.
Q. What are some examples of cheating?
A. Just pick up
any newspaper. A major steroid scandal recently hit baseball
and has caught up sluggers like Barry Bonds and Jason Giambi.
Big mutual funds are under fire for unfair practices that
hurt ordinary investors. Subpoenas are flying as the record
industry goes after music pirates. The pharmaceutical giant
Pfizer is fighting government charges that one of its
subsidiaries bribed doctors to prescribe the drug Neurontin.
Jayson Blair is only latest reporter to have been caught
making stuff up. Students are cheating like crazy, even at
places like Yale. The list goes on and on.
Q. Sure, but are Americans really cheating MORE?
A. I don’t want
to overplay the bad news. Things are less corrupt now than
they used to be in various ways. Organized crime doesn’t
have its fingers in so many places, for example. At the same
time, there is much evidence of more cheating in a number of
areas compared to thirty years ago, especially by young
people, well-educated professionals, and the wealthy. This
trend hasn’t gotten much attention, in part because the
“values” debate in America has largely been framed by
conservatives who’ve focused on things like teenage
pregnancy, divorce, drugs, and homosexuality. I say let’s
give the culture war a break and talk about a more troubling
shift in American values: the ways that more of us seem to
be willing to do anything to get ahead.
Q. Why are people cheating so much?
A. To start with,
we live in a winner-take-all society. Winners get paid more
these days, so people will do whatever it takes to be a
winner. Meanwhile, everyone is under more pressure to
perform well starting from a young age, in school, and
extending into the workplace so that they are not left
behind by the economy. That kind of stress provides a lot of
incentive to cut corners. And I look at two other reasons
for cheating: government watchdogs haven't been given enough
resources to enforce the law, and many Americans are cynical
that the rules in our society are fair, so they feel it's
justified to cheat. As I see it, all of these reasons are
related to the overarching trend in American society toward
more free market competition. We’ve become a society divided
between a Winning Class that is richer than ever and often
cheats because it can get away with it. And an Anxious Class
that cheats to move up in the world – or just stay afloat.
Q. How does the winner-take-all dynamic play out?
A. Take baseball.
Sluggers get bigger paychecks than ever, over $15 million a
year in some cases. Guys on the bench get $300,000 a year.
Players who take steroids can more easily build the muscles
it takes to hit more home runs, and have a chance at getting
seriously rich. Not surprisingly, steroid use has become
rampant in baseball over the past decade. In journalism and
book publishing, the stars now make a fortune while average
writers find it even harder to get by. That trend may help
explain plagiarists like Jayson Blair and Stephen Ambrose.
Q. All of us probably saw note-passing in class when we
were students. What's changed? Is the cheating in schools
really different now?
A. Many kids today
think their life will be over if they don't get into a good
college, or a good grad school after college. And the truth
is that credentials matter more than ever these days, since
many of the best employers only recruit from the top
colleges. So you have more kids cheating on tests and term
papers to get the grades they need to get ahead. Even
students who'd like to be honest often end up cheating
because everyone else seems to be doing it and they need to
keep up with the cheaters. What you get in this situation is
a culture of cheating that self-perpetuates.
Q. You say that professionals are cheating more. Why?
A. The rat race
has become a lot tougher in fields like law, medicine, and
accounting – and, in fact, everywhere in our economy. In
law, the number of hours that lawyers at big firms are
supposed to bill has soared since the '70s and it's also
harder to make partner or hold onto a partner position. That
tempts lawyers to pad their hours. In medicine, doctors'
incomes are shrinking as more of them go to work for HMOs.
That creates temptations to make extra cash in unethical
ways.
Q. Why aren't cheaters punished more often?
A. The biggest
problem is that government has been weakened over the past
two decades. The IRS and SEC, for example, don't have the
resources to crack down on tax cheats or effectively police
corporate America. But professional associations also do a
poor job of policing their members. Again and again,
dishonest lawyers, doctors, stockbrokers and other
professionals are not disciplined by professional watchdog
groups. Too often, these groups protect their members not
the public. At a larger culture level, Americans love a
winner and admire the wealthy. It’s easy for rogues with a
big bank account to buy themselves respect. Witness the
rehabilitation of Michael Milken in recent years.
Q. What can be done about cheating?
A. Different forms
of cheating have different solutions. I emphasize a few big
points. First, we need to strengthen the government agencies
that enforce the rules of fair play, starting with the IRS
and the SEC. Washington patted itself on the back after
passing corporate reform legislation in 2002, but the
watchdogs still don’t have the muscle they need to get the
job done: witness the SEC failing to detect all the problems
at mutual funds. Second, businesses, professional groups,
and sporting leagues must get more serious about instilling
ethics and must police their own ranks more effectively. For
example, the NFL should have suspended the four Oakland
Raiders who recently tested positive for steroids. Third,
schools and universities must have stronger honor codes and
make a new commitment to teaching integrity and building
character. That stuff works and there’s research to prove
it.
Q. Anything else that needs to be done?
A. Yes. We need
broad measures to reverse America's drift toward a nation
where the rich are given special privileges and middle class
Americans see the system as stacked against them. We need to
create a new social contract in America that fosters a sense
of social trust and economic fairness across U.S. society.
Things like fairer taxes, national health insurance, and
fewer inequities in the criminal justice system can all make
a big difference.
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